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Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » [I] Metafilk
| [I] Metafilk [message #289327] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 15:16 |
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Inspired by Richard's "Day in the Life" filk, I thought I'd
write a filk about how I saw the current State of AFP.
Unfortunately I quickly realised I wasn't sure *how* I saw the
current State of AFP. So I wrote a filk about that instead.
Chats and cats and just a lark,
A chance to show creative spark,
A lighten-up when things get dark,
I've looked at fluff that way.
But now it fills up every thread,
It doesn't matter what you said,
It all turns into fluff instead,
While crunch threads just decay.
I've looked at fluff from both sides now,
From <foo> and <bar>, and still somehow,
It's fluff's illusions I recall,
I really don't know fluff at all.
Nice advice for ev'ry fan,
Discussions where we all can plan,
To make this group the best we can,
I've looked at [M]s that way.
But now all people do is moan,
They shake their heads and start to groan,
And criticism of my own,
Means I've gone the same way.
I've looked at [M]s from both sides now,
From <foo> and <bar>, and still somehow,
It's [M]s' illusions I recall,
I really don't know [M]s at all.
I've seen the group from both sides now,
From Stace and elf, and still somehow,
It's just illusions I recall,
I don't know what I want at all.
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
Suggs against sexism. It's Madness gone
politically correct.
Jon Holmes, The Now Show 26/5/06
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| Re: [I] Metafilk [message #289358 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 17:18 |
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Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> Inspired by Richard's "Day in the Life" filk, I thought I'd
> write a filk about how I saw the current State of AFP.
> Unfortunately I quickly realised I wasn't sure *how* I saw the
> current State of AFP. So I wrote a filk about that instead.
>
<extremely reluctant snippage>
I sit slack-jawed in awe!
--
Regards
Nigel Stapley
www.judgemental.plus.com
<reply-to will bounce>
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| Re: [I] Metafilk [message #289414 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 21:55 |
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"Nigel Stapley" <unet [at] judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
news:4496c05c$0$3548$ed2619ec [at] ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>> Inspired by Richard's "Day in the Life" filk, I thought I'd write a filk
>> about how I saw the current State of AFP. Unfortunately I quickly
>> realised I wasn't sure *how* I saw the current State of AFP. So I wrote a
>> filk about that instead.
>>
>
> <extremely reluctant snippage>
>
> I sit slack-jawed in awe!
>
Agreed :-)
*applause*
Ssirienna
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| Re: [I] Metafilk [message #289420 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 22:19 |
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The time: 19 Jun 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: "Ssirienna" <ssiriennaNOspam [at] blueyonderNOSPAM.co.uk>
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> "Nigel Stapley" <unet [at] judgemental.plus.com> wrote in
> message
> news:4496c05c$0$3548$ed2619ec [at] ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
>> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>>> Inspired by Richard's "Day in the Life" filk, I thought
>>> I'd write a filk about how I saw the current State of
>>> AFP. Unfortunately I quickly realised I wasn't sure *how*
>>> I saw the current State of AFP. So I wrote a filk about
>>> that instead.
>>>
>>
>> <extremely reluctant snippage>
>>
>> I sit slack-jawed in awe!
>>
> Agreed :-)
>
> *applause*
Thank you both. I have to admit, I was a bit worried about the
"from <foo> and <bar>" bits; initially I *was* planning on
actually putting something in there, but I couldn't think of
anything...
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
Suggs against sexism. It's Madness gone
politically correct.
Jon Holmes, The Now Show 26/5/06
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| Re: [I] Metafilk [message #289428 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 23:01 |
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"Daibhid Ceanaideach" <daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97E7D8FCB9A61daibhid [at] 130.133.1.4...
> The time: 19 Jun 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
> speaker: "Ssirienna" <ssiriennaNOspam [at] blueyonderNOSPAM.co.uk>
>
>>
>> "Nigel Stapley" <unet [at] judgemental.plus.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:4496c05c$0$3548$ed2619ec [at] ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
>>> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>>>> Inspired by Richard's "Day in the Life" filk, I thought
>>>> I'd write a filk about how I saw the current State of
>>>> AFP. Unfortunately I quickly realised I wasn't sure *how*
>>>> I saw the current State of AFP. So I wrote a filk about
>>>> that instead.
>>>>
>>>
>>> <extremely reluctant snippage>
>>>
>>> I sit slack-jawed in awe!
>>>
>> Agreed :-)
>>
>> *applause*
>
> Thank you both. I have to admit, I was a bit worried about the
> "from <foo> and <bar>" bits; initially I *was* planning on
> actually putting something in there, but I couldn't think of
> anything...
>
Thanks Daibh. If for nothing else afp is worth singing along with.
You really are quite good at this filking lark.
Would now be an appropriate time to expose my near total ignorance and ask
what is the provenance of <foo> and <bar>? I'm guessing they are
placeholders for options/parameters used in computer coding. But I'm afraid
all that is a closed boo..well blank keyboard to me
Louise
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| Re: [I] Metafilk [message #289429 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 23:07 |
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The time: 19 Jun 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: "Louise Mac Mahon" <louise [at] happybabysling.com>
> Would now be an appropriate time to expose my near total
> ignorance and ask what is the provenance of <foo> and
> <bar>? I'm guessing they are placeholders for
> options/parameters used in computer coding. But I'm afraid
> all that is a closed boo..well blank keyboard to me
Likewise, I just picked them up from others on the group 8-).
I *think* they're based on "foobar", which is a mispelling of
"FUBAR", which stand for "Fouled[1] Up Beyond All
Recognition". The reason for this, however, is unknown, at
least to me.
HTH, BIBVS.
[1]Okay, it doesn't *really*...
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
Suggs against sexism. It's Madness gone
politically correct.
Jon Holmes, The Now Show 26/5/06
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| Re: [I] Metafilk [message #289430 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 23:10 |
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In article <4fohlpF1jne6tU1 [at] individual.net>, louise [at] happybabysling.com
says...
>
> "Daibhid Ceanaideach" <daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns97E7D8FCB9A61daibhid [at] 130.133.1.4...
> > The time: 19 Jun 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
> > speaker: "Ssirienna" <ssiriennaNOspam [at] blueyonderNOSPAM.co.uk>
> >
> >>
> >> "Nigel Stapley" <unet [at] judgemental.plus.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> news:4496c05c$0$3548$ed2619ec [at] ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
> >>> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> >>>> Inspired by Richard's "Day in the Life" filk, I thought
> >>>> I'd write a filk about how I saw the current State of
> >>>> AFP. Unfortunately I quickly realised I wasn't sure *how*
> >>>> I saw the current State of AFP. So I wrote a filk about
> >>>> that instead.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> <extremely reluctant snippage>
> >>>
> >>> I sit slack-jawed in awe!
> >>>
> >> Agreed :-)
> >>
> >> *applause*
> >
> > Thank you both. I have to admit, I was a bit worried about the
> > "from <foo> and <bar>" bits; initially I *was* planning on
> > actually putting something in there, but I couldn't think of
> > anything...
> >
>
> Thanks Daibh. If for nothing else afp is worth singing along with.
> You really are quite good at this filking lark.
> Would now be an appropriate time to expose my near total ignorance and ask
> what is the provenance of <foo> and <bar>? I'm guessing they are
> placeholders for options/parameters used in computer coding. But I'm afraid
> all that is a closed boo..well blank keyboard to me
Not there - they originate, I think, in military as FU (Fouled Up, or
more probably Fucked Up) and FUBAR (Fouled Up Beyond All Recognition).
Since they were useful words to describe the normal state of most
projects (in the opinion of those at the coalface), they were adopted by
the software industry. Then, by some alchemy, the word was split up and
they are now used in conversation to represent nemed "thingies",
"whatsits" or whatever, where the exact nature of the thingy doesn't
matter.
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| Re: [I] Metafilk [message #289433 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 23:25 |
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Louise Mac Mahon said:
<snip>
> Would now be an appropriate time to expose my near total ignorance and ask
> what is the provenance of <foo> and <bar>? I'm guessing they are
> placeholders for options/parameters used in computer coding. But I'm
> afraid all that is a closed boo..well blank keyboard to me
Your guess is perfectly correct. The sequence is "foo", "bar", "baz" - and
if that isn't sufficient, it continues "quux", "quuux", "quuuux", etc.
It has been reported that, in the UK, the sequence "fred", "barney",
"wilma", "betty" is preferred, but I have seen little evidence of this in
Real Life development environments, although I will concede that "fred"
itself is widely used, possibly because it's so easy to type on a qwerty
keyboard.
Incidentally, in Alec's otherwise first-rate answer, he fluffed the
opportunity to use the wonderful term "metasyntactic variable".
--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
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| Re: [I] Metafilk [message #289441 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 23:23 |
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On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:01:42 +0100, Louise Mac Mahon
<louise [at] happybabysling.com> wrote:
>
>Would now be an appropriate time to expose my near total ignorance and ask
>what is the provenance of <foo> and <bar>? I'm guessing they are
>placeholders for options/parameters used in computer coding. But I'm afraid
>all that is a closed boo..well blank keyboard to me
If I may point the assembled multitude to the other fount of all
knowledge, the jargon file:
< http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/M/metasyntactic-variabl e.html>
--
Andy Brown
There are two ways to write error-free programs. Only the third one works.
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| Re: [I] Metafilk [message #289471 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 01:55 |
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in article Xns97E7912D137CCdaibhid [at] 130.133.1.4, Daibhid Ceanaideach at
daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com wrote on 19/06/2006 6:16 AM:
<Snip clever filk>
> I've looked at [M]s from both sides now,
> From <foo> and <bar>, and still somehow,
> It's [M]s' illusions I recall,
> I really don't know [M]s at all.
>
> I've seen the group from both sides now,
> From Stace and elf, and still somehow,
> It's just illusions I recall,
> I don't know what I want at all.
Nice! So are you going to answer Steve's questions and my poll? Or maybe you
have already - I read afp in sequence so I haven't got there yet through all
the multiply-split subjects - in which case I withdraw the question.
--
Lesley Weston.
Brightly_coloured_blob is real, but I don't often check even the few bits
that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
changing spelling and spacing as required.
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| Re: [I] Metafilk [message #289472 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 01:56 |
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in article Xns97E7D8FCB9A61daibhid [at] 130.133.1.4, Daibhid Ceanaideach at
daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com wrote on 19/06/2006 1:19 PM:
> The time: 19 Jun 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
> speaker: "Ssirienna" <ssiriennaNOspam [at] blueyonderNOSPAM.co.uk>
>
>>
>> "Nigel Stapley" <unet [at] judgemental.plus.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:4496c05c$0$3548$ed2619ec [at] ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
>>> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>>>> Inspired by Richard's "Day in the Life" filk, I thought
>>>> I'd write a filk about how I saw the current State of
>>>> AFP. Unfortunately I quickly realised I wasn't sure *how*
>>>> I saw the current State of AFP. So I wrote a filk about
>>>> that instead.
>>>>
>>>
>>> <extremely reluctant snippage>
>>>
>>> I sit slack-jawed in awe!
>>>
>> Agreed :-)
>>
>> *applause*
>
> Thank you both. I have to admit, I was a bit worried about the
> "from <foo> and <bar>" bits; initially I *was* planning on
> actually putting something in there, but I couldn't think of
> anything...
It's funnier the way it is.
--
Lesley Weston.
Brightly_coloured_blob is real, but I don't often check even the few bits
that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
changing spelling and spacing as required.
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| Re: [I] Metafilk [message #289476 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 02:15 |
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Lesley Weston wrote:
> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> <Snip clever filk>
Clever, yes, but don't forget "pertinent" and "expressive", which are
also good adjectives.
[...]
> So are you going to answer Steve's questions and my poll? Or maybe you
> have already - I read afp in sequence so I haven't got there yet through all
> the multiply-split subjects - in which case I withdraw the question.
For my part, what I want are things that individuals have little
control over - only the hive mind does - and there's a problem there
because the hive mind doesn't exist. I'd like consistency. I'd like
there to always be a spectrum from light to heavy, rather than having
the newsgroup swing from one to the other in a pattern of iterative
overcompensation. I'd like to not have any threads which take up 20%
or more of the newsgroup volume on any given day. I'd like the *number*
of posts to be more consistent, instead of a huge flurry of activity
alternating with periods of tranquility. However, without a hive mind,
I contend myself with merely nodding to the calls for balance in all
things.
Adrian.
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| Re: [I] Metafilk [message #289477 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 02:21 |
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Daibhid Ceanaideach said:
<snip>
> I have to admit, I was a bit worried about the
> "from <foo> and <bar>" bits; initially I *was* planning on
> actually putting something in there, but I couldn't think of
> anything...
If it's any consolation, Rodgers and Hammerstein had the same problem:
"Lah, a note to follow soh..."
That has 'placeholder' written all over it. And then, presumably, the
deadline arrived, and it was too late.
--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
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